When did the job die for you?

[PDU]

When I was signed into the patrol command log and the squad movement log at 0700. A shofly asked how I could be at two places at the same time

[RetirementIsParole]

Jan 1, 2018 20:37:59 GMT -5 bohica9 said:

Jan 1, 2018 17:54:15 GMT -5 RetirementIsParole said:

Blame their Lieut she led them to slaughter

Sorry guy, but all four were railroaded by the NYDA's Office, who chose to videotape the AIDS-infested "victim" in case he died before their trial.

They did not take one cent or an extra vial, all was vouchered.

If you believe a bunch of scumbag drug dealers over four good cops, who I knew personally, perhaps you were on the wrong job.

They were flaked and everyone in our command, and all others I thought, knew so.

Their Lieut, 1. who's most basic responsibility above all else was to protect her troops and 2. had the legal education to know better gift-wrapped them for the DANY 

[idonthaveahook]

The job dies over and over again each day. Every time I see another video with cops doing a square dance with a bunch of old ladies in a senior center. Then it gets outdone with a precinct vs. precinct rap battle. Then the next day they get outdone by a new image of a cop getting snowballs thrown at him by a bunch of mutts. Every day there's a new social media post that buries the job deeper and deeper.

[90xxxxx]

Patty(she was in my academy class) made a mistake. She locked up the mutts after they gave her the radio back. As far as the DA prosecuting her. DA's die for a case like that. It was a feather in his/her cap.

[nynighthawk]

106th Pct Stun Gun case. Ray Kelly was brought in to shape up things as the CO and then his career took off!

[ftbagel]

Steady tours and Sgt Sherman incident totally changed how we went about our day. I came on early eighties and a lot of guys from that time would look forward to going back after a swing because they might they didn't want to miss anything. Fun times.

[Jack Daniels]

Jan 1, 2018 18:05:41 GMT -5 The Detail Rack Guy said:

2. When every graduating academy class became"The most diverse class ever!!!" As if that was an achievement. (not sarcasm).

That's what the $25,100 salary started.

[The Washroom Attendant]

Jan 2, 2018 8:41:33 GMT -5 ftbagel said:

Steady tours and Sgt Sherman incident totally changed how we went about our day. I came on early eighties and a lot of guys from that time would look forward to going back after a swing because they might they didn't want to miss anything. Fun times.

During the same period, I remember driving up the FDR drive, on my way to work, laughing to myself -wondering-what's going to happen tonight?

Years later, when it became a chore and a pain to go to work (I would actually try to think of ways NOT to go in) --I retired.

[Big Country]

When you found people on  misdemeanor warrants and were told to tell them go turn yourselves in and told not to Out right arrest them. Yes it was in  writing .

[meznoktoz]

My second trip to ChocStat on the podium. The stats killed many a good gig.

[ohyeahbro]

When I walked into the command after 20 hours at the West Indian day parade and was told to get in a sector. I asked about the 6 hour rule between tours and was laughed at and told it doesn’t count we paid you overtime. That’s when I realized this whole thing was a scam to fuck cops over to make the upper eschelons look good.

[nuthinbutdatruth]

Tompkins Sq. Park riot was the beginning of the end.  Law Enforcement officially died after two innocent cops were sent to prison by the Feds after being acquitted of all charges by a jury of their peers in a state trial.   

That was the death knell.

Rodney Junkie King rot in hell

[beachwear]

SHORTLY AFTER PHIL CARDILLO WAS SHOT WE ALL SAW THAT THE POLITICAL HACKS ON AND OFF THE JOB WERE TRYING THEIR BEST TO MAKE THE INVESTIGATION A JOKE. RIGHT AFTER THE FUNERAL INSPECTOR JOHN HAUGH A HIGHLY RESPECT BOSS OF THE 28 WHO I HAD MET A FEW TIMES DECIDED TO RETIRE WITH 17 YRS. ON THE JOB TO SHOW HIS DISGUST OF THE DEPARTMENT ACTIONS.

HE WAS THE ONLY BOSS INVOLVED THAT DAY THAT DID THE HONORABLE THING.



THAT WAS THE DAY THE JOB DIED FOR ME.

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Jan 1, 2018 18:39:38 GMT -5 markoccb said:

Sgt Pike incident
Sgt Sherman incident
Ben Ward
BB 2
the washroom attendant
70 incident
midgets make chief (PBSI)

I had a lot of fun during Ben Ward's tenure as PC. I like a PC who is not exactly on the ball. I'd prefer Ward to a Kelly, any day. 

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Jan 1, 2018 20:49:09 GMT -5 PDU said:

When I was signed into the patrol command log and the squad movement log at 0700. A shofly asked how I could be at two places at the same time.

I would have told him "It's a Quantum Mechanics/Physics type of situation, sir. Most people perceive time as linear, but in reality, it isn't, at all".  I would explain the Michelson/Morley experiment, the Slit Experiment phenomenon with atoms, etc. 

Of course, I'd have a CD jammed up my ass, (maybe not if he has a sense of humor), but I'd enjoy it for the laughs. 

[lexordo]

I've been thinking about this thread for a while...
There are quite a few incidents over my years that I relate to the job as being dead. We have all taken a "gut punch" over the years that was the sign that it was "officially dead".
I remember the day I came on the job, an old timer told me that the job was dead. I'd heard it hundreds of times as a rook...maybe thousands of times. The older guys could all point to something-and, for the most part, they were right. But somehow, we made our way. Hell, I'd say that most of us had a lot of fun along the way. Despite the days that we wept over brothers lost, we still managed to make our way and have a few laughs. The hours and the pay sucked. But we still had a few laughs along the way.

My buddies son hit the streets a month or so ago. His dad wondered to me as to how his son would ever make it through the next years. I thought about it. My buddy was the son of a cop too...and his dad had wondered the same thing. Each generation of new cops have heard the same thing. The job is dead...you should have been here back in the day.

The new guys today are facing new challenges that are almost foreign to us. They are hearing that the job is dead. They will, somehow make it through, with the challenges ever growing. But...they will make it. They will make it their own job. It's not the job we knew-but there are still some great guys out there

[msmajor]

Two things I get while reading LER . The things that have changed the most are TRUST, a COP from a neighboring command could be flown in and you trusted him with your life , no questions asked. The other was COMMON SENSE, if you tried to do the right thing and it went FUBAR , as long as your intentions were good it was worked out. Now the atmosphere is let’s funk over the COP first and let him dig out from under.

[beachwear]

REMEMBER TODAY COPS JUST MIGHT THINK THESE ARE HIS/HER GOOD OLD DAYS. WHEN I ARRIVED AT MY FIRST PATROL ASSIGNMENT I WAS RIDING WITH A OLD TIMER. HE TOLD ME THAT I HAD CAME ON THE JOB AT THE RIGHT TIME. THAT IT WAS AT ROCK BOTTOM AND COULD NOT GET ANY WORSE. THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WAS IN 1966.

[The Detail Rack Guy]

When cell phones with video cameras were invented and available to the masses. No way could I have made it on patrol, knowing I was likely being filmed at any moment.

The first phone I saw on a radio run, I didn't even know what it was. It was bigger than a brick. I thought the guy was from the CIA or something.

Imagine a cop on park foot-post in the summer, saying to another cop,"I'm going to go get some beer". He then takes off his shirt and gun-belt, hands it to the other cop. He is bare from the waist up. Walks over to a deli, buys a case of beer and brings it back to the park.

A completely hypothetical situation, of course, but you wouldn't want it on video.

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Jan 4, 2018 20:27:40 GMT -5 beachwear said:

REMEMBER TODAY COPS JUST MIGHT THINK THESE ARE HIS/HER GOOD OLD DAYS. WHEN I ARRIVED AT MY FIRST PATROL ASSIGNMENT I WAS RIDING WITH A OLD TIMER. HE TOLD ME THAT I HAD CAME ON THE JOB AT THE RIGHT TIME. THAT IT WAS AT ROCK BOTTOM AND COULD NOT GET ANY WORSE. THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WAS IN 1966.

No way, Beach. Each generation said it, but now it really is dead. Trust is gone. That's what "Diversity" brings us. And that's how they want it. That's why "they" champion that stupid diversity meme. 

No fighting force is effective without trust, it's the power base. It will get worse, though, so you are right to an extent.

Glad I'm gone.

[899xxxandretired]

Jan 4, 2018 21:54:16 GMT -5 The Detail Rack Guy said:

When cell phones with video cameras were invented and available to the masses. No way could I have made it on patrol, knowing I was likely being filmed at any moment.

The first phone I saw on a radio run, I didn't even know what it was. It was bigger than a brick. I thought the guy was from the CIA or something.

Imagine a cop on park foot-post in the summer, saying to another cop,"I'm going to go get some beer". He then takes off his shirt and gun-belt, hands it to the other cop. He is bare from the waist up. Walks over to a deli, buys a case of beer and brings it back to the park.

A completely hypothetical situation, of course, but you wouldn't want it on video.

Im confused.  Why did he strip?   In the Bronx, it was called paper bags and maybe a back door.  

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Jan 5, 2018 0:32:31 GMT -5 899xxxandretired said:

Jan 4, 2018 21:54:16 GMT -5 The Detail Rack Guy said:

When cell phones with video cameras were invented and available to the masses. No way could I have made it on patrol, knowing I was likely being filmed at any moment.

The first phone I saw on a radio run, I didn't even know what it was. It was bigger than a brick. I thought the guy was from the CIA or something.

Imagine a cop on park foot-post in the summer, saying to another cop,"I'm going to go get some beer". He then takes off his shirt and gun-belt, hands it to the other cop. He is bare from the waist up. Walks over to a deli, buys a case of beer and brings it back to the park.

A completely hypothetical situation, of course, but you wouldn't want it on video.

Im confused.  Why did he strip?   In the Bronx, it was called paper bags and maybe a back door.  

Well, he had to cross a busy road. I guess he felt going in and coming out, looking like a skell, would draw less attention. Nobody will bat an eye at you, dressed(undressed) like that in the summer. I mean he had a whole case; not the odd paper bag. It was a sight, bro. I was laughing my ass off. 

Best summer on the job, ever. And it was a "punishment" summer detail. They sure showed me!

Great memories. 

[bohica9]

Jan 5, 2018 0:32:31 GMT -5 899xxxandretired said:

Jan 4, 2018 21:54:16 GMT -5 The Detail Rack Guy said:

When cell phones with video cameras were invented and available to the masses. No way could I have made it on patrol, knowing I was likely being filmed at any moment.

The first phone I saw on a radio run, I didn't even know what it was. It was bigger than a brick. I thought the guy was from the CIA or something.

Imagine a cop on park foot-post in the summer, saying to another cop,"I'm going to go get some beer". He then takes off his shirt and gun-belt, hands it to the other cop. He is bare from the waist up. Walks over to a deli, buys a case of beer and brings it back to the park.

A completely hypothetical situation, of course, but you wouldn't want it on video.

Im confused.  Why did he strip?   In the Bronx, it was called paper bags and maybe a back door.  

Probably hot outside, another "long hot summer"...

[Pressure Point Cop]

I think the job as I knew it (OCT 1990 Class) was DOA, looking back on it. I saw it being torn apart from the get-go. Taxed uniform allowance. Elimination of chart and steady tours that made the precinct actually 3 separate entities, not one. COMPSTAT. 0-0-3-3-6. The list goes on and on. Just as I was leaving they were preparing to issue cell phones that were really camouflaged GPS personal trackers. Society changed and not for the better. My life improved the day I retired.

[PJ807]

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AN absolute slap in the face,