In The Middle of All This: 2 Cops Suspended for Cursing....

[Prosay]

....but it was over the public address system in the RMP.........

nypost.com/2020/04/17/nypd-cops-suspended-after-profane-rant-was-caught-on-video/

[lexordo]

Just not a smart thing to do...these days

[The Detail Rack Guy]

[bohica9]

So now you can get suspended to talking to a citizen in their native tongue, the primitive langauge of their mother ?

[idonthaveahook]

Suspended?? SUSPENDED??? YOU CUT OFF THEIR PAY AND THEIR HEALTH BENEFITS?? NOT ONLY FOR THEM BUT FOR THEIR FAMILIES??? FOR THAT? Hell, they shouldn't have even been modified, much less SUSPENDED!

Dermot is just as big of a jerkoff as the last few commissioners

[509thsfs]

Only one guy had the microphone. How are two cops suspended over what one guy said?

[whudsoncop]

We all know that as LEOs we must try to act professionally and treat the public with courtesy and respect. This pandemic has pushed us to our limit. Low man power, unsafe working conditions, DOA after DOA, no support from the administration, no proper equipment, ungrateful citizens, savage shooting/stabbings, the fear of becoming infected and the fear of infecting your family all can lead to a breaking point. Suspending two veteran cops for using harsh language towards an EDP who is out there despite orders to social distance and spreading disease is a slap in the face to every cop in this country who comes to work everyday with all these concerns weighing on their minds. One bad lapse in judgement cost the two cops pay and benefits. This is disgusting and Shea should be ashamed of himself.

[behindtheline]

I honestly cannot believe that in this day and age where everything is recorded and blasted out in seconds, that any officer in their right state of mind would be such an idiot that they would put themselves in the cross hairs like this. Whom ever recorded this from the apartment must still have a hard On hours later as this is a dream come true.

TO have that much time on the job and think that you can defeat the system is sad. These guys must have been filling in for a patrol detail as so many m.o.s. are getting pulled to back fill because of the sick rate. Fellas, try to realize that the job is not what it use to be and that THEY hate you for what you represent to them.

I also think that to suspend these officers is a bit too much, modified assignment, a rip if that ! Once again, it proves to ALL you guys and gals out there, that drive to gun runs with your hair on fire that they job does NOT give two Shyts about you.....you are a Tax number to them, so PLEASE act appropriately and take care of each other and your families.

[realscu]

I guess the PC drank the koolaid.

You can modify them for a few days and let them take a hit. Suspension? Break in service for this ?

[markoccb]

What time will the PBA have a presser to blast this excessive overreaction?

[overanddone]

All the stress of the Job, multiplied by all of the virus noise, and in predictable NYPD fashion, their bullshit jam machinery fires up. I guess their highly publicized hang-wringing over MOS suicides was bullshit too. Imagine my surprise.

[realscu]

Apr 17, 2020 17:30:24 GMT -5 overanddone said:

All the stress of the Job, multiplied by all of the virus noise, and in predictable NYPD fashion, their bullshit jam machinery fires up. I guess their highly publicized hang-wringing over MOS suicides was bullshit too. Imagine my surprise.

People had hope in Bratton and O’Neill when Kelly left. I was on the other rant trying to explain that these were going to be puppets for a socialist mayor. I got heat from one ranter that stayed very quiet when O’Neill threw the sergeant involved in a shooting under the bus and I said “I told you so”.

Shea took this job knowing he would have to play to the anti cop socialist movement.

First high profile case shows true colors. And this is not a high profile case.

[jobsecurity]

Stupid for the cops to do. Even as a rookie before cell phones were a thing I was always warned to be careful of how I used the loud speaker. That said, should have been handled in house. ESPECIALLY given the manpower issues. Either a weeks worth of sh!t assignments or a CD. Keep it moving.

[nuthinbutdatruth]

Suspended?  

It was dumb.  But Suspension??

A cop wouldn't even get that from CCRB.  Maybe 10 day rip.  

[bndb]

Apr 17, 2020 16:23:38 GMT -5 509thsfs said:

Only one guy had the microphone. How are two cops suspended over what one guy said?

I am hoping when they were asked who was on the mic, they both refused to point the finger at the other, no rats in a radio car.

[dustoff262]

I saw the video. That was horrible, unprofessional and inconsistent with being an officer with the constitutional power to take a life.

How do you tell people to shut the fuck up before I smack the shit out of you. Suck a fat one, lick my balls, fuck you? and you aren't even engaged in physical combat. You are just using the PA on an empty street in an area known for halfway houses and SROs. Both cops were veterans, 20 yrs and 18 yrs respectively.

They each have been on the job long enough to know how the job will jam you up. In this day and age where everything is recorded either with hardwire or wireless, how do you think your behavior plays out on the evening news? As a professional or as a complete asshole?

Sorry to buck the prevailing feeling, but I find it very hard to let this slide because of "stress". They didnt have to say a thing from a pedestrian standing 40 feet away, while they were sequestered inside an RMP that could keep on driving. Its the stupid behavior thats hard to defend. No one forced them to engage that way. They were experienced enough to stay clear of that.

[jobsecurity]

Apr 17, 2020 20:44:35 GMT -5 dustoff262 said:

I saw the video. That was horrible, unprofessional and inconsistent with being an officer with the constitutional power to take a life.

How do you tell people to shut the fuck up before I smack the shit out of you. Suck a fat one, lick my balls, fuck you? and you aren't even engaged in physical combat. You are just using the PA on an empty street in an area known for halfway houses and SROs. Both cops were veterans, 20 yrs and 18 yrs respectively.

They each have been on the job long enough to know how the job will jam you up. In this day and age where everything is recorded either with hardwire or wireless, how do you think your behavior plays out on the evening news? As a professional or as a complete asshole?

Sorry to buck the prevailing feeling, but I find it very hard to let this slide because of "stress". They didnt have to say a thing from a pedestrian standing 40 feet away, while they were sequestered inside an RMP that could keep on driving. Its the stupid behavior thats hard to defend. No one forced them to engage that way. They were experienced enough to stay clear of that.

I don’t disagree it was unprofessional. That was a stupid thing to do. I will not defend it nor even say that its remotely right in this universe. I will not use the “stress” excuse. They look like bullies doing that. But I do feel a 30 day suspension is harsh. What they are saying is that is equal to losing a prisoner. I don’t believe it is. I do feel an in house punishment, even highway therapy is more appropriate.

[dustoff262]

eh... the problem is it was transmitted to the papers. It embarrassed the entire job, not just the precinct CO. The incident has no doubt made the national news. Even if it didnt, there are those out and about picking up the extra load every day and do the job without humiliating the next cop that has to answer a call out on the streets.

We already have copy cats that go out of their way to intimidate and harrass cops.  If you arent looking for a collar, or summons, dont trade profanity barbs.  Move along.  Turn up the radio and look the other way.  It isnt worth the trouble.

 Their actions deserve more than highway therapy. They deserve to get bounced from their sector, bounced from their precinct and finish their careers doing something other than patrol. If it were two rookies, I'd say pinch them and send them to sensitivity training. You arent going to get much change from two guys who can walk out the door in the immediate future.

No one will remember names. But everyone will remember the uniform, RMP and the NYPD at large.

Over the last 19 yrs., we have had plenty of cops squander the good public sympathy that has come about from the blood spilled of our fallen brothers and sisters.  Now, we just look like a bunch of bums who dont know how to police the streets.  Dont embarrass their memory or yourselves.

[jobsecurity]

Apr 17, 2020 22:21:32 GMT -5 dustoff262 said:

eh... the problem is it was transmitted to the papers. It embarrassed the entire job, not just the precinct CO. The incident has no doubt made the national news. Even if it didnt, there are those out and about picking up the extra load every day and do the job without humiliating the next cop that has to answer a call out on the streets.

We already have copy cats that go out of their way to intimidate and harrass cops.  If you arent looking for a collar, or summons, dont trade profanity barbs.  Move along.  Turn up the radio and look the other way.  It isnt worth the trouble.

 Their actions deserve more than highway therapy. They deserve to get bounced from their sector, bounced from their precinct and finish their careers doing something other than patrol. If it were two rookies, I'd say pinch them and send them to sensitivity training. You arent going to get much change from two guys who can walk out the door in the immediate future.

No one will remember names. But everyone will remember the uniform, RMP and the NYPD at large.

Over the last 19 yrs., we have had plenty of cops squander the good public sympathy that has come about from the blood spilled of our fallen brothers and sisters.  Now, we just look like a bunch of bums who dont know how to police the streets.  Dont embarrass their memory or yourselves.

I believe we can both agree that we are tired of the stupid and the self inflicted wounds. Either some chunky out of shape cop that can’t even handle a handcuffed prisoner or a couple of cops essentially bullying a guy that was either hammered or an edp. There is never a good time to be a douchebag as a cop, especially during a pandemic.

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Apr 17, 2020 20:14:19 GMT -5 bndb said:

Apr 17, 2020 16:23:38 GMT -5 509thsfs said:

Only one guy had the microphone. How are two cops suspended over what one guy said?

I am hoping when they were asked who was on the mic, they both refused to point the finger at the other, no rats in a radio car.

I would hope if it was my partner, for the day or otherwise, he would just own up to it. If I did it, I wouldn't let the other guy in the car go down for it. 

That being said, the call probably came down from on high to suspend both of them. 

[march302005]

Wasn’t us, they set us up... one man in the street, one person recording, and another man with a megaphone.

[twohandspete]

Apr 17, 2020 22:21:32 GMT -5 dustoff262 said:

Over the last 19 yrs., we have had plenty of cops squander the good public sympathy that has come about from the blood spilled of our fallen brothers and sisters.  Now, we just look like a bunch of bums who dont know how to police the streets.  Dont embarrass their memory or yourselves.

I agree 100% with you Rack. I’ve stood shoulder to shoulder with men and women who have either died from COVID-19, 9/11 illnesses, or violently at the end of some skell’s gun. 

We’ve all gone to a local watering hole and pissed in each other’s ears about the pitfalls and problems the job has laid out for us, much in the same language the idiot used on the microphone. The BIG DIFFERENCE it was done on our own time and not in uniform.  We’ve all earned the right to curse like sailors on leave. You can’t keep all that hostility, depression and anger bottled up, it’s not healthy, BUT there’s a time and a place for everything. 

I was mostly in plain clothes for 2/3rds of my career. I’ve had some ‘colorful’ exchanges over the years with your generic street urchins, haven’t we all. When I put that uniform for a detail etc, I was all business.That’s the same uniform I had to wear when attending too many funerals of our fallen. I would never disgrace something I hold sacred. Their memories mean too much to me.

The two officers will take their medicine for that huge brain fart. Was it an excessive punishment? No worse than dying in that uniform protecting your fellow man from evil.

[iftheyonlyknew]

Apr 17, 2020 20:44:35 GMT -5 dustoff262 said:

I saw the video. That was horrible, unprofessional and inconsistent with being an officer with the constitutional power to take a life.

How do you tell people to shut the fuck up before I smack the shit out of you. Suck a fat one, lick my balls, fuck you? and you aren't even engaged in physical combat. You are just using the PA on an empty street in an area known for halfway houses and SROs. Both cops were veterans, 20 yrs and 18 yrs respectively.

They each have been on the job long enough to know how the job will jam you up. In this day and age where everything is recorded either with hardwire or wireless, how do you think your behavior plays out on the evening news? As a professional or as a complete asshole?

Sorry to buck the prevailing feeling, but I find it very hard to let this slide because of "stress". They didnt have to say a thing from a pedestrian standing 40 feet away, while they were sequestered inside an RMP that could keep on driving. Its the stupid behavior thats hard to defend. No one forced them to engage that way. They were experienced enough to stay clear of that.

I know they were experienced, do you think it is possible they just didn't give a shit?? They probably didn't think they would go as far as get suspended, maybe off patrol, inside for awhile? 

[iftheyonlyknew]

Apr 18, 2020 8:13:14 GMT -5 twohandspete said:

Apr 17, 2020 22:21:32 GMT -5 dustoff262 said:

Over the last 19 yrs., we have had plenty of cops squander the good public sympathy that has come about from the blood spilled of our fallen brothers and sisters.  Now, we just look like a bunch of bums who dont know how to police the streets.  Dont embarrass their memory or yourselves.

I agree 100% with you Rack. I’ve stood shoulder to shoulder with men and women who have either died from COVID-19, 9/11 illnesses, or violently at the end of some skell’s gun. 

We’ve all gone to a local watering hole and pissed in each other’s ears about the pitfalls and problems the job has laid out for us, much in the same language the idiot used on the microphone. The BIG DIFFERENCE it was done on our own time and not in uniform.  We’ve all earned the right to curse like sailors on leave. You can’t keep all that hostility, depression and anger bottled up, it’s not healthy, BUT there’s a time and a place for everything. 

I was mostly in plain clothes for 2/3rds of my career. I’ve had some ‘colorful’ exchanges over the years with your generic street urchins, haven’t we all. When I put that uniform for a detail etc, I was all business.That’s the same uniform I had to wear when attending too many funerals of our fallen. I would never disgrace something I hold sacred. Their memories mean too much to me.

The two officers will take their medicine for that huge brain fart. Was it an excessive punishment? No worse than dying in that uniform protecting your fellow man from evil.

Well said being/anytime in uniform, REPRESENT with professionalism and respect!!!

[capecodotj]

Watched the video. The officer on the loudspeaker's action didn't warrant suspension. It was childish and unprofessional. What I suggest he should have done is driven his car over to the next street if the officer was so offended by the chatter of the EDP.