Phase 1,2,3...HOW IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL

[lexordo]

Virus or no virus. Republican or Democrat. Cmon! STOP FOR A MINUTE!!!!
HOW IS ANY OF THIS CONSTITUTIONAL?

[RetirementIsParole]

It Aint.
Nothing overrides the constitutional limits or powers of the 3 co-equal branches of government or our Bill of Rights 

[lexordo]

I want to scream! Everyone including Trump is talking like this is just normal planning

[gaurdianangel05]

Jesus Christ! Just listen to your President! We'll get through this.

[lexordo]

Yes. We will get through “this”. Maybe. But our country. Your country. Our freedoms are forever changed. And when something similar happens in the future, and it will or, nothing happens and the President proclaims certain businesses must close...for the good of others, what will you say? Do you live in NY? The governor directed that everyone must wear a mask in public. Sounds good. But I don’t have a mask. Must I purchase one? How about I own a boat? Sorry. You can’t use that. Even if I am with my family. Can the President of another party simply proclaim that your car can no longer be operated? It’s for the greater good don’t you know... Some folks can’t assemble freely. Worship is restricted. Can a simple proclamation alter the Second Amendment? Any Amendments? Look ahead just a bit. There’s big trouble brewing

[RetirementIsParole]

I will abide by any property owner who wants me to wear a mask on/in their property. I will not wear a mask outdoors anywhere in public unless I'm in 5th Ave lunch time/subway rush hour conditions

[hapd]

Combat Information Center Watch Supervisor

gotta read in to this and formulate some thoughts.

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Apr 16, 2020 17:48:10 GMT -5 lexordo said:

Virus or no virus. Republican or Democrat. Cmon! STOP FOR A MINUTE!!!!
HOW IS ANY OF THIS CONSTITUTIONAL?

When did any of them care about the Constitution?

[RetirementIsParole]

Call me skeptical W uttered that statement

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Apr 17, 2020 7:42:09 GMT -5 RetirementIsParole said:

Call me skeptical W uttered that statement

"GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.



"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."



"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."



"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"



I've talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution "a goddamned piece of paper."



And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the sh*t that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that "goddamned piece of paper" used to guarantee.



Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the "Constitution is an outdated document."
   
www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_doug_tho_051211_bush___constitution_.htm

[RetirementIsParole]

As far as I can recall W has a longstanding reputation of never swearing or even raising his voice in anger. His never-Trump attitude notwithstanding I don't consider the unidentified "three people present" sourcing credible.

[Elmo334]

This article puts some perspective on how this country is really being shut down based on false pretenses.


S AND POLITICS
Here’s How Much Downstate New York Is Skewing the United States’ Coronavirus Numbers
BY MATT MARGOLIS APRIL 18, 2020

The USNS Comfort docks in New York City, New York, March 30, 2020. (Townhall Media)
I live in New York State. But, I live in Western New York—not New York City, or downstate. If you ask anyone from downstate, they are New Yorkers, I am not. And quite honestly, I’m okay with that. I have no problem with not being lumped in with the downstaters.

Except I still am. New York is a hotspot when it comes to coronavirus cases and deaths, but that’s only because of downstate. Upstate New York’s coronavirus situation pales in comparison to downstate. New York City, in particular, was doomed due to the incompetence of local leaders, as well as other factors, such as population density and its subway system aiding in the spread of the virus.

Personally, I’ve thought for weeks we should be counting downstate New York separately from the rest of the country. So, I looked at the numbers to see what happens when you separate downstate New York from the rest of the country.

Downstate New York is represented in blue.
The numbers are shocking. Downstate has been so heavily impacted by the coronavirus that it skews the United States when you compare us to the rest of the world.


Downstate New York technically includes New York City, Long Island, and the Hudson Valley, but I am only including Kings, Queens, New York, Suffolk, Bronx, Nassau, Westchester and Richmond Counties. These counties have a population of 12,205,796, according to World Population Review’s numbers for 2020—bigger than many countries.

After compiling data for the top 30 countries with the most cases of the coronavirus, I ranked the top ten countries by confirmed cases per capita (per million) based on the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University’s data as of 11:00 am ET on April 18, 2020.

Spain (4,100.67)
Belgium (3,208.30)
Switzerland (3,166.40)
Italy (2,851.95)
Ireland (2,831.23)
France (2,284.94)
United States (2,135.43)
Portugal (1,930.52)
Netherlands (1,853.88)
United Kingdom (1,698.42)
Right away we can see that the United States does not “lead the world” in coronavirus cases. Even with downstate New York in the mix, the United States isn’t doing nearly as bad as the mainstream media makes it out to be. But, here’s what happens to the top ten once you treat downstate New York as its own country:


Downstate New York (16,230.65)
Spain (4,100.67)
Belgium (3,208.30)
Switzerland (3,166.40)
Italy (2,851.95)
Ireland (2,831.23)
France (2,284.94)
Portugal (1,930.52)
Netherlands (1,853.88)
United Kingdom (1,698.42)
Separating downstate New York from the rest of the United States shows us just how bad the situation there is. In fact, the rest of the country doesn’t even rank in the top ten anymore (it comes in at #13).

But, as I’ve mentioned before, confirmed cases is not the best way to compare countries because of the discrepancies in testing between them. So, let’s compare these countries by the fatality rate per capita (per million).

Belgium (470.51)
Spain (428.68)
Italy (376.19)
France (286.53)
United Kingdom (228.28)
Netherlands (210.86)
Switzerland (155.29)
United States (112.04)
Ireland (107.34)
Portugal (67.37)
Once again, even with downstate New York included, the coronavirus has impacted the United States much less than other hard-hit countries. But, now, here’s what happens when we treat downstate New York as a separate country from the United States in terms of deaths per capita (per million).

Downstate New York (848.45)
Belgium (470.51)
Spain (428.68)
Italy (376.19)
France (286.53)
United Kingdom (228.28)
Netherlands (210.86)
Switzerland (155.29)
Sweden (149.61)
Ireland (107.34)
Once again, downstate New York leads the pack, and the United States (without downstate New York) doesn’t even come in the top ten (it comes in at #11).

I should mention here that several countries are reportedly undercounting their cases and deaths, including Iran, China, and Russia. It’s very possible that the actual case and death numbers for these countries are much higher, possibly even putting them in the top ten, but without reliable data, I can’t correct for this.


No, the United States Does Not Lead the World in Coronavirus Cases or Deaths
What we can see from the data is just how much downstate New York is skewing the data for the United States. What this tells us is that there shouldn't be a one-size-fits-all approach to social distancing or reopening the country. I feel pretty safe where I live, but because I'm in New York State, and Governor Cuomo is treating the whole state like it is downstate, I have to abide by the same statewide restrictions. Further, if the media ever chose to look at the country's numbers the way I have, they'd see that the overwhelming majority of the country is doing much, much better than it appears to be when you include downstate New York in our numbers. The media wants you to believe that President Trump botched the federal government's response to the coronavirus. This is clearly not true. Even with downstate's tallies we don't lead the world in cases or deaths per capita. Treating downstate as its own country shows just how much local leadership impacts containment and mitigation.

[realscu]

might as well wipe your ass with the constitution.

This has shown how relevant it is.

[lexordo]

And just like China and the old USSR, now we have our own Gestapo, a Soviet Sympathizer directing New Yorkers to rat on their fellow citizens...for failure to maintain social distancing protocols. And once notified of this criminal behavior, some “force” will respond to enforce this “law”. Where has my country gone?

[The Detail Rack Guy]

Apr 18, 2020 13:20:01 GMT -5 RetirementIsParole said:

As far as I can recall W has a longstanding reputation of never swearing or even raising his voice in anger. His never-Trump attitude notwithstanding I don't consider the unidentified "three people present" sourcing credible.

Believe what you will. 

It's a sobering moment when one realizes that no politician, of either party, gives a damn about "the Constitution" or "We the People". 

There's loads of people walking around thinking Hillary is "for the people", and refuse to see the obvious.

Now I can't even get my Freedom Fries without having to social distance.