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Post by bstf on Apr 15, 2019 12:06:24 GMT -5
Is there a victim here? No
A paper trail? No
Witness statements? No
Physical evidence? no
Videotapes, recordings, photos? No
Yet if you question this incredible allegation you are called a left winger or they will hurl other insults at you. (The succeeding posts will prove my point)
Arguing with folks like this is a supreme waste of time.
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Post by The Detail Rack Guy on Apr 15, 2019 15:15:40 GMT -5
Arguing with folks like this is a supreme waste of time. Sort of like changing your name every week.  |
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Post by The Detail Rack Guy on Apr 15, 2019 16:32:35 GMT -5
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Post by capecodotj on Apr 15, 2019 16:45:56 GMT -5
I do not believe he was defending pedophiles, just pointing out the absurdity of the arguments being made.
This thread reminds me of a long-winded discussion I had with some folks around me. The "school shooting are a false flag" debate. Reasoned discourse was not possible. Logical discourse was impossible. Pointing out the insanity of their position (the shootings never happened, no children had died, the media was interviewing "crisis actors") simply dug those taking such a position deeper down their rabbit hole of absurdity.
So, after reading this thread it is clear to me that this is such a debate. Have fun all.
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Post by terry33 on Apr 15, 2019 17:18:11 GMT -5
I'd like nothing better than to see solid evidence that the conniving Clintons were into something like child trafficking or pedophilia. But the stuff Ive read is just innuendo upon innuendo.
Like Clinton used to be in Epstein's plane a lot. Maybe 30 times. OK,that's further proof Clinton will hang out with anyone with big bucks no matter how much of a lowlife they are. But, sorry, that does not prove that Clinton was into what Epstein was into.
I also read a long piece about what Epstein was into in Florida. It was pretty weird stuff. Like having young girls massage him and have them watch him jerk off. Sick to be sure but not exactly what you think of when you think of child predators. They all got paid good money and they all were repeat customers. Sure he should have been sentenced to 10 years in jail instead of virtually walking but he wasnt exactly raping anyone.
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Post by dustoff262 on Apr 15, 2019 17:37:08 GMT -5
Pedophilia isn't Bill Clinton's M.O. He likes women somewhat his age until Monica Lewinsky and she was still a consenting adult.
As for Hillary, its been rumored she flipped sides. Supposedly that's why she put up with Bill's indescetions. She didn't like men anymore. They had a relationship of convenience. Doesn't mean they don't love each other. They obviously do. Pedophilia isn't Hillary's M.O. either.
Here is Sally Miller who had a 3 month affair with Bill. Listen to her opinion. Not hearsay or conspiracy theory but her personal observation.
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Post by Elmo334 on Apr 15, 2019 19:35:13 GMT -5
Is there a victim here? No A paper trail? No Witness statements? No Physical evidence? no Videotapes, recordings, photos? No Yet if you question this incredible allegation you are called a left winger or they will hurl other insults at you. (The succeeding posts will prove my point) Arguing with folks like this is a supreme waste of time. Was there an investigation? No. |
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Post by bstf on Apr 15, 2019 22:05:44 GMT -5
Any Clinton fans here? No
As cape cod said, bill likes those full figured gals. The dumber the better.
But if you call BS on this, you are called. Pro propedophile.
Not worthy of anyone's time to discuss this with wackos.
As Terry said, many here hope it might be true
But nothing supports the allegation.
Don't waste your time.
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Post by bstf on Apr 15, 2019 22:10:39 GMT -5
3 nuts vs everyone else. Thank goodness the sane rule on this rant.
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Post by dustoff262 on Apr 15, 2019 23:06:55 GMT -5
3 nuts vs everyone else. Thank goodness the sane rule on this rant. These guys aren't nuts. They have some time on this site and have their opinions. We discuss and debate then get over it. I can disagree with the specific title of this thread and articulate why but can give leeway to the alternative opinion. Just because its 2 different sides doesn't mean one side has to be absolutely wrong. Vet your information well and present your opinion as if you want to convince the gallery that is listening in. Discussions of this subject and magnitude go beyond the circle of 6 or 7. Like I said before, 10% truth mixed in with 90% lies and people will believe 100% of it. Social media and the internet has a huge audience that can be easily manipulated. I grew up without it so I remain suspicious of obscure reporting of unknown authors with an ax to grind. For example: Even now, as a church burns in France, how many of these sites are ready to blame it on Muslims before an investigation is done? Its a rhetorical question and we can have some intriguing suspicions, but we can't come to that conclusion until its proven. That is how I view this thread. |
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Post by bstf on Apr 15, 2019 23:49:38 GMT -5
Conspiracy people don't have opinions. They have deeply held beliefs that are impervious to facts or reason. Show me a pic of Bill with an underage girl, produce a few witnesses and we would all say: hang him!
.calling him a pedophile is NOT an opinion
It's not like Mets vs Yankees, it's another animal all together.
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Post by The Detail Rack Guy on Apr 16, 2019 0:48:20 GMT -5
It's not like Mets vs Yankees, it's another animal all together. This from a guy who needs to change his screen name on a weekly basis because he is so mentally unstable. A guy who can't feel any kind of value unless he is attacking those around him. Then, when everyone has had enough of you and you get banned or scurry off silently, you change your name once again and reappear under another nom de plume. That's your life.  |
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Post by meznoktoz on Apr 16, 2019 4:33:44 GMT -5
Your sources are from extreme alt right conspiracy blogs. That ends up getting linked to normal conservatives. One of the biggest collars anyone in the law enforcement community can make is anything dealing with child abuse or child rape. It is so hideous that even reporters exposing such crimes by high profile subjects would win a Pulitzer. You are accusing a former president and first lady/senator. Yet they still go to a ton of speaking engagements and tours around the globe. You don't think Interpol would have collared them by now? All you want to do is spread conspiracy theories someone else made up on the internet. If there is evidence that a district attorney can bring to a grand jury, it would have been done by now and the Clintons would be behind bars. So far nada, except your cut and paste from your alt right sources. The odds of life elsewhere in the universe can be mathematically proven better than your allegations from your conspiracy websites. ARe you kidding me? After everything that has happened over the last 4 years?  We couldn't even trust the heads of our law enforcement agencies and you say trust INTERPOL??? Hillary and Bill interceded on behalf of Laura Silsby and she was caught KIDNAPPING 33 children in Haiti and got the sentenced reduced to some BS charge where she served 6 months, then turned up working for AMBER ALERT!!! Where was INTERPOL there??? Where are they as Haitians still camp out in front of the Clinton Foundation demanding an investigation to the money they never received from them??? ALT News sources? News flash buddy.....what you are listening too is FAKE NEWS Wake up and join the rest of us. Everything that is going on now is a direct result of alt news sources getting the TRUTH to the American people about what was released by Seth Rich to Wikileaks about what Hillary and Obama had done. NYPD Sgt investigates Seth Rich murder www.wnd.com/2018/07/bombshell-hunt-for-seth-richs-murderer-turns-up-witness/As an investigator, the information provided, once vetted, out-ways the source. We routinely use prostitutes and drug dealers and others in trials to testify in behalf of the prosecution. In Eddie Byrnes trial the star witness was a prostitute. What you just wrote here shows you don't have a clue as to what just happened. Wake up. Back to topic. The Clintons are directly and associated with others involved in the trafficking of children. Anything provided on my page you can vet yourself as I have. Is everything on there legitimate? Probably not, but time will show and what has been revealed already implicates them and people in their circle. This has been going on for years and the Caribbean is a major source |
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Post by meznoktoz on Apr 16, 2019 4:45:19 GMT -5
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Post by dustoff262 on Apr 16, 2019 5:57:41 GMT -5
You say turn off the fake news sources yet you quote them anyway. You can't have it both ways.
I said before that I'm sure the Clintons are dirty, but there is so much attributed to them it is nearly impossible to have any sense of what is true and what isn't. Mush them altogether and you have conspiracy theory on top of conspiracy theory.
10% of the truth mixed with 90% of lies and ppl will believe 100%.
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Post by Elmo334 on Apr 16, 2019 7:38:31 GMT -5
You say turn off the fake news sources yet you quote them anyway. You can't have it both ways. I said before that I'm sure the Clintons are dirty, but there is so much attributed to them it is nearly impossible to have any sense of what is true and what isn't. Mush them altogether and you have conspiracy theory on top of conspiracy theory. 10% of the truth mixed with 90% of lies and ppl will believe 100%. Funny how the Russia-election meddling claims were never referred to as a 'conspiracy theory' despite no real evidence. After 2 years the left is still pushing it as real and dismissing a two year investigation and several congressional committee investigations that found nothing? |
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Post by terry33 on Apr 16, 2019 7:53:15 GMT -5
Just look at Midnight's last post if you want to see a prime example of the sloppy thinking and just plain bullshyt that some right wing sites pedal.
Near the end of the post he shows a video of congressman Scalise talking about child trafficking and how he is going to combat it. Midnight then states: You know what happened to him, right? He then posts an article about him being shot.
Meaning: he was shot to prevent him from going after the pedos.
Huh?
Isnt this just pathetically dumb?
There is not a hint that the shooter had any connection or interest in child trafficking or was hired by child traffickers to shoot Scalise. The shooter just hated Trump and repubs.
These kinds of factless outrageous charges only hurt conservatives, that's the problem. When the far right goes off the deep end, it just makes the rest of us look stupid.
And I sometimes wonder if that is the purpose? Are some of the people who spin these outrageous tales really working for the other side? Because that is who they are helping.
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Post by bstf on Apr 16, 2019 7:59:54 GMT -5
Evidence connecting this to the Clintons. Got any?
Reposting about pedophilia does not prove anything.
There is no direct evidence proving this bizzare allegation.
Now about Notre Dame. I say it was space aliens. Can you PROVE I'm wrong?
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Post by dustoff262 on Apr 16, 2019 8:07:26 GMT -5
Just look at Midnight's last post if you want to see a prime example of the sloppy thinking and just plain bullshyt that some right wing sites pedal. Near the end of the post he shows a video of congressman Scalise talking about child trafficking and how he is going to combat it. Midnight then states: You know what happened to him, right? He then posts an article about him being shot. Meaning: he was shot to prevent him from going after the pedos. Huh? Isnt this just pathetically dumb? There is not a hint that the shooter had any connection or interest in child trafficking or was hired by child traffickers to shoot Scalise. The shooter just hated Trump. These kinds of factless outrageous charges only hurt conservatives, that's the problem. When the far right goes off the deep end, it just makes the rest of us look stupid. And I sometimes wonder if that is the purpose? Are some of the people who spin these outrageous tales really working for the other side? Because that is who they are helping. +1 Perfectly stated. |
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Post by Elmo334 on Apr 16, 2019 9:02:06 GMT -5
Evidence connecting this to the Clintons. Got any? Reposting about pedophilia does not prove anything. There is no direct evidence proving this bizzare allegation. Now about Notre Dame. I say it was space aliens. Can you PROVE I'm wrong? The Clintons surround themselves with people involved in crimes against children like Silsby, Weiner, Epstien, Podestas, Alafantis and others. There has never been an investigation into any of this by any law enforcement agency. There was also mention in the IG report that notes from the FBI doing the investigation into Weiner's laptop had notes regarding the Clinton Foundation and crimes against children. On pg. 294 an FBI investigator testifies that he debriefed Comey on the materials after being notified of the sex-crimes-linked intelligence from the FBI’s Criminal Investigative Division. Under the heading — “Hillary Clinton & Foundation Crime Against Children:” |
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Post by meznoktoz on Apr 16, 2019 10:38:08 GMT -5
Still no comments by the dejectors about Haiti, pedophile island, or the state department pedo scandal under hillary. Or John Podesta's pedo emails released by wiki....all connected directly to Hillary.
This is the meat and potatoes, stop cherry picking from my posts.
You know the nut that shot Scalese had a hit list right? Scalise was not on it, but I post because bad things tend to happen to people who cross Hillary.
Human/child trafficking and the Democrat elite is very real.
Hoping Trump goes after them on all this too.
And let's not for get NXVIM in NY, woman and children forced in sex slavery, with Kirstan Gillibrand seated at their table for Hillary fund raiser.
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Post by The Detail Rack Guy on Apr 16, 2019 12:41:41 GMT -5
Still no comments by the dejectors about Haiti, pedophile island, or the state department pedo scandal under hillary. Or John Podesta's pedo emails released by wiki....all connected directly to Hillary.  |
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Post by krepke on Apr 16, 2019 12:44:16 GMT -5
Still no comments by the dejectors about Haiti, pedophile island, or the state department pedo scandal under hillary. Or John Podesta's pedo emails released by wiki....all connected directly to Hillary. Any answers about the Epstein/Trump connections? |
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Post by bstf on Apr 16, 2019 12:54:21 GMT -5
Well he has a point. If merely visiting Epstien island makes you a pedophile, then Trump is a pedophile.
Trump likes fine, classy ladies, not kids
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Post by terry33 on Apr 16, 2019 12:55:51 GMT -5
These outlandish allegations have been out there for years. How come tucker carlson, hannity or laura ingraham have never covered them? If the evidence is there for anyone to see, why havent they discussed it? Are they also in on the coverup?
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